Vacuum Pouches for Turbovac Chamber Machines

Richard Stevens
Vacuum Pouches for Turbovac Chamber Machines

Turbovac chamber machines have been sold in the UK for decades and a lot of them are still running in butchers' back rooms, catering kitchens and small processors. They're conventional chamber machines: smooth PA/PE pouches, seal bar, lid. Our pouches run in every one of them. This guide is about sizing, settings and getting an older machine to seal like a new one.

Sizing to the bar

Turbovac has sold tabletop machines with bars in the 300 to 450mm range and floor-standing and double-chamber machines with longer and multiple bars. Rather than rely on model numbers, measure the bar inside the chamber and take 20mm off. That's your maximum pouch width.

Measured bar Widest pouch Good stock sizes
300mm 280mm 200×300, 250×350, 270×330
350mm 330mm Above plus 300×400, 320×520
420 to 450mm 400 to 430mm Above plus 400×500, 400×600
500mm and above Whole range Including 530×650

The size guide matches each size to product.

Settings

Older Turbovac machines use a timed vacuum rather than a sensor, so the cycle is set in seconds. For our 65 micron pouches, run the vacuum long enough that the pump note changes and the film is fully drawn onto the product, then seal at the standard bag setting. For 130 micron, add one step of seal time. On soft or sliced product, shorten the vacuum time to leave a little air rather than crushing the product.

Newer models with a sensor-controlled vacuum work like any current chamber machine: full vacuum for firm product, 90 to 95% for soft, standard seal time throughout.

Keeping an old machine sealing well

When a Turbovac that's been fine for years starts leaving weak seals, it's almost never the pouch. In order of likelihood:

  1. PTFE tape on the seal bar worn through or creased. It's a consumable; replace it and the seal comes back.
  2. Silicone rubber on the counter bar hardened or grooved. Same fix.
  3. Heating element with a cold spot, which shows as a seal that's fine at one end and peels at the other.
  4. Lid gasket leaking, which stops the chamber reaching full vacuum and leaves packs loose. Look for a hiss during the cycle.
  5. Pump oil overdue. Milky oil means water in the pump from packing wet product; change it.

Check those five before blaming the film. If you'd like a second opinion, send us a photo of a failed seal and we'll tell you what it looks like to us.

Bone-in and colour coding

Butchers on a Turbovac tend to pack bone-in more than kitchens do. The bone-in guide covers guards, vacuum level and when to move to 130 micron. For separating poultry or frozen stock, the blue 300×400mm is the same film with a tint.

Same film as everyone else

Smooth PA/PE pouches are standard across all chamber machines, so anything in our range that fits your bar runs on your Turbovac exactly as it would on a Henkelman or a Boss. The Boss guide covers that make if you run both.

Not sure of your bar length? Tell us the model with a sample pack request and we'll pick sizes that fit.

Pouches mentioned in this guide

See every size in clear pouches - 65mu →

Questions we get asked

My Turbovac is 15 years old. Will modern pouches seal in it?

Yes. Smooth PA/PE film hasn't changed in a way that matters to a seal bar. If seals are weak, it's almost always the PTFE tape or the heating element, not the pouch.

How do I find the seal bar length?

Measure the bar inside the chamber with a tape, or check the data plate. Keep pouches at least 20mm narrower than that.

Can I run 130 micron on a Turbovac?

Yes, with one step more seal time. Check the first seal by pressing the pack.

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